Without D Lyrical, there would have been no ICP. On this episode, I talk to Detroit rap legend Dale Miettinen Jr., a.k.a. D Lyrical! We connected online when I started my Hatchet Chat series and reviewed the EP he and Violent J released in 1990, "Intelligence and Violence". We met at the Gathering and did this interview when I came to Cleveland with I Fight Dragons late last year. A great interview about the origins of the Dark Carnival and Dale's solo career.